NVIDIA gets Destroyed - WAN Show March 19, 2021

19 mrt. 2021
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Timestamps (Not sure who posted the original comment but thanks to Not Camy, jasons dad & Svgge for the repost!)
00:00:01 --- Topics (Nvidia RTX 3060 “unhackable” mining limited drivers, AMD launching the RX 6700XT, 11th gen core line up, and Google slashes Play Store fees).
00:01:11 --- Intro.
00:01:34 --- Daylight savings time is the reason the WAN show is early today.
00:01:54 --- The “unhackable” RTX 3060 has been hacked!
00:14:49 --- Linus addresses the NiceHash sponsorship earlier this week.
00:24:19 --- Sponsor Spot: Ridge Wallet.
00:25:41 --- Sponsor Spot: Remote HQ.
00:26:26 --- Sponsor Spot: Private Internet Access.
00:30:56 --- Linus is extremely extremely gutted and disappointed about the issues that prevented Linus Media Group from getting a new headquarters.
00:34:47 --- 11th gen core lineup unveiled as more reviews leak.
00:42:08 --- AMD launches the RX 6700XT.
00:42:45 --- Google slashes Play Store fees with a twist.
00:50:41 --- SX8200 Pro bounty update.
00:51:11 --- AMD refuses to limit cryptocurrency mining performance.
00:52:02 --- Verified Actual Gamer Program Update.
01:01:05 --- Super/Floatplane Chats.
01:12:48 --- Outro.
01:13:08 --- Outro/Intro animation.

Individual Super Chats and Floatplane Chats
01:01:05 --- "Scrapyard Wars L.M.G. vs DIY Perks when?"
01:01:31 --- "L.M.G. should buy the whole building they are in and lease out the parts they don't use."
01:03:30 --- "Linus you inspire me daily, keep being you."
01:03:37 --- Linus becomes more annoying in response to "Hey Linus, hope you put your vacation to good use, you've become unprecedentedly annoying for the last month or so."
01:04:27 --- "Wouldn't tell you your business. If it saves the opportunity if Utility issues. Could monitize vids on DIY..."
01:05:06 --- "Any plans to include some sort of code compilation benchmark in your toolkit?"
01:05:27 --- "Dell update?" and "Shoe Dryer update?"
01:06:50 --- "Mouse pad and desk pad update?"
01:07:28 --- "Love your content and your beard looks really nice."
01:07:42 --- "Linus, please take care on your vacation, your skin is starting to look unhealthy recently."
01:07:59 --- "I'm a bit behind in the stream but in reply to the intent of crypto and its environmental impact, I think it's more worth talking about the reality instead of the ideals..."
01:08:22 --- "Would you consider adding some sort of option to get notified when desk pad is on stock (i.e. email)?"
01:08:52 --- "As an American I don't get to pick the tariffs. We deal with a price that is provided to us like anyone else..."
01:09:36 --- "Did it ever dawn on you that you're buying cards that gamers could have and now are holding them for an excessive amount of time, how many are you holding?"
01:10:58 --- "I want to know what else I should eat for dinner, skittles was a no go last time."
01:11:16 --- "Who is the best pony?"

Reacties
  • Close your eyes, listen to Linus and imagine Steve Carell as Michael Scott being your favorite tech advisor...

    David RDavid R10 uur geleden
  • The current issue with NiceHash stems more from the lack of decentralization, abuse of crypto networks, and multi dollar cut.

    Riley DoraineRiley Doraine3 dagen geleden
    • Also when you use NiceHash you are not a "retail" miner. You are a collaborative mining operation with a centralized head. By using NiceHash *YOU* are their hardware and they pay you a cut.

      Riley DoraineRiley Doraine3 dagen geleden
  • No one actually cares about NiceHash. They care about exerting power over others. There is no paying or forgiveness with those types of people. Doesn't matter if the company apologizes or what happens with the founder... It's forever a point these people can *whine* about. The only winning move is to ignore them.

    richfiles πrichfiles π5 dagen geleden
  • Stay safe, handsome/beautiful :)

    WigadamaWigadama7 dagen geleden
  • @54:55 My American brain rn:❓❓❓🤯🤯

    Pole TookePole Tooke8 dagen geleden
  • Linus hyping himself up with a "you got this" RIGHT at the start was so adorable

    Pole TookePole Tooke8 dagen geleden
  • The voice announcing the trains at my local train station: 1:04:18 You dont understand sh*t

    PistonPetePistonPete9 dagen geleden
  • Linus releases an angry video with ~3M views railing against crypto while demanding that Nvidia unlock the hash rate limiter, gets 250K upvotes because none of his viewers have the braincells to comprehend the hypocrisy (and then later confirms his hypocrisy by releasing a full video on how to get in on crypto mining). Shortly later, Nvidia releases the unlocked driver. Accident? Coincidence? Hard to know. But either way, fuck you Linus.

    MoonMoon11 dagen geleden
  • Now you can actually use those "only mining cards" with official nvidia driver enabled GPU-passthrough? :P Make your own plex server or whatever.

    deemondeemon12 dagen geleden
  • About the growing scarcity of computer parts (GCs but not only that, memory too as their price have raised lately), IMHO there's another factor to consider: big companies like Wall Mart, Best Buy etc who have gone over their primal business leitmotivs in their offerings towards VAR avenues, e.g. selling their own lines of PC builds. The more they can stack in their stockrooms, the greater their leverage can be for such a market (acting as scalpers). At the very least, this would be something to explore and monitor...

    Frédéric JeanbartFrédéric Jeanbart12 dagen geleden
  • This is my first podcast ever watched. The binge watching starts now!

    Vikas aroraVikas arora14 dagen geleden
  • I'm American and you can say it all day long if you want: The prior administration which shall not be named was galactically irresponsible and petty and stupid and vindictive for its own sake because it had the USD and lack of any real intra-governmental accountability to stand behind.

    SurelyYewJestSurelyYewJest14 dagen geleden
  • Will you guys be willing to ship internationally? To South Africa for example?

    Pieter-Louis PotgieterPieter-Louis Potgieter16 dagen geleden
    • I've got a US shipping address, but importing for a 2nd time to ZAR, would be expensive. Would be great if you could ship internationally without going via USA

      Pieter-Louis PotgieterPieter-Louis Potgieter16 dagen geleden
  • Even if miners don't grab them, scalpers still will. There will be no change for the typical gamer as they will still fetch extortionate prices until supply can recover.

    Dylan RichardsDylan Richards17 dagen geleden
  • anyone know where i can buy a new gpu fan for a acer predator helios 300 G3-572, ive been searching for hours.. i need help, only actual gpu fan ive seen is from a acer-connected distributor company in germany that only has the whole cooling system for way over my budget price for this repair, just looking for a separate gpu fan

    lumbumlumbum17 dagen geleden
  • Admittedly I don't catch most of these when they come out, so I just listen to them on a day off or something. Would like to offer my 2 cents as a 'murican. I've honestly never directly paid any import duties on anything I've ordered from around the world (China, Malaysia, Germany, UK, Australia, etc), so it's not something most of us are familiar with. However, please don't let that stop you from hooking up other V.A.G.s, just start the program now and let America jump in at a later date, or at least let us register and pay the fees if we want to. I would still prefer paying MSRP + tax + duty fees vice buying from a scalper any day of the week, even if it ends up being a similar price.

    Zero the WandererZero the Wanderer18 dagen geleden
  • no you are wrong, iPads are bad now. when i buy a tablet i want it to be a tablet not a laptop. a tablet becoming like a laptop is not a good thing. eg watching a video while lying on bed- it's very difficult to do with the new ipad but very comfortable with a normal tablet.

    deep hazarikadeep hazarika18 dagen geleden
  • I am so happy you guys can eat now

    DustistreamDustistream18 dagen geleden
  • why would anyone use mousepads in 2021

    Нестор МахноНестор Махно19 dagen geleden
  • Why one needs to buy a VPN, if we have Tor?

    Andrey SotnikovAndrey Sotnikov19 dagen geleden
  • Linus, being salty, aren't we?!

    Andy Joel HarperAndy Joel Harper19 dagen geleden
  • So I'm trying to find info on the verified actual gamer program.. How do I verify my gamer-ness ?

    pieskmistapieskmista19 dagen geleden
  • Time to send donos in rubles... get linus to do stuff for less than 1.50 USD

    Michael JarviMichael Jarvi19 dagen geleden
  • still loving my i5-9600k, guess ill get a 3060 next year lol

    TokkoaTokkoa20 dagen geleden
  • I wouldn't buy anything lower than the RTX 3080. The graphics cards lower than the 3080 is pure garbage.

    Pedro SanchezPedro Sanchez20 dagen geleden
  • if you dont get 1 just sit back and keep trying. Thank you linus for looking out for us and to the trolls need to go take a long walk on a short pier

    Angel hAngel h20 dagen geleden
  • fuck mining, it takes at least a month to get a payout, then I still have to sell it, just to get 2 games worth of cash. It gets fucked up randomly, requires lots of troubleshooting, reinstalling and shit like that. I don't need 100usd that bad.

    kepeter97kepeter9720 dagen geleden
  • 2:29 I'd hope so! I'd like to use the hardware I pay for any effing way I want... Instead of restricting their products or pointing fingers, how about the industry fix the way their hardware gets distributed, or buy back old hardware to recylce it? Might solve some production bottlenecks...

    Mana RallegoMana Rallego20 dagen geleden
  • Americans whining about tarifs meanwhile Europeans are used to buy 200 dollar tech for 250 EUR

    Diamond55155Diamond5515520 dagen geleden
  • Thank you guys for the VAG. I don't think enough people are seeing the good you guys did there

    Zach RZach R20 dagen geleden
  • Mine was in an airconditioned room, and the room was a toasty 36 degrees. I live in Oman and it is 44 degrees outside so aircon is required

    Emil AndragEmil Andrag20 dagen geleden
  • I never got an actual passport. I've been to Canada a lot of times before 2002 (I haven't been there since) and we didn't need a passport to get in or out. So there was no reason at the time to get one since I don't travel and I don't travel cause I don't make enough money to travel far enough to need a passport. I guess our new ID's can be used as a passport, if this is true then I dodged the whole headache of getting a passport.

    Eric MarcusEric Marcus20 dagen geleden
  • Gets notification for video. Watches video all the way through. Goes to website. All out of stock. What a mess. VAG is right. Very angry gamers. No great surprise there then. Good effort but didn't resolve the problem. I'm not bitter as I wanted to see how much shipping to the UK would be first, but it clearly didn't work. Not many people posting on here they got one. I would be interested to hear if any went to Asia / China region. A quick street view check. Quick name and address check first. If not a residential property then you do not get one. An update on the success or not in this case would be nice.

    Finster1974Finster197420 dagen geleden
  • funny most portuguese also don't have passports, we either don't have to leave the EU or the country.

    testerpt5testerpt520 dagen geleden
  • Luke, looking great these days man.

    nomadbennomadben20 dagen geleden
  • Is this being turned into a podcast yet? Id love to listen to this on the road

    pixel dennispixel dennis20 dagen geleden
  • I was glad to here 2 corrections of yourself in here Linus. One being for 13:51 about the significant amount of research and development that goes into professional software drivers. I completely agree with everything you said on both sides of the subject, but I did have the anticipation of waiting for you to state that you also appreciate the difference between those two sides. You fulfilled that. The other being for the agreement to no longer advertise NiceHash. While I agree with what you said about them, they are not bad guys, I only feel that your potential influence could sway alot of workers onto that station if you know what I mean. I know this was not at all your intention, and probably is not even really a danger. It was just a bit uncomfortable I suppose. Appreciate the announcement to say the least, but the best option would be to post up a simple video demonstrating the steps to set up various miner types such as lolminer, teamredminer, ethminer, etc on different pools, and even including NiceHash That would be fine and dandy, would get the useful information out to gamers, and have no feeling of being swayed to one side.

    YourMomGoogleYourMomGoogle20 dagen geleden
  • As soon as the RTX 3000 series comes out the RTX 2000 series starts messing up. I watched all the 2080s needing to be fixed due to artifacts and tried all the fixes but in the end I had to RMA it. EVGA has been really great about it and gave me the green light to RMA cant wait to have my 2080 back.

    joe kanejoe kane20 dagen geleden
  • Look at this guy giving us investment tips when this clown blew 50k into GameStop after it went up like 10x. Sound advice Love you Linus

    Red XRed X20 dagen geleden
  • 500k per 1k sf? That's insane! We didn't pay anywhere near that in SoCal in the states. That would put our building around 55 million.

    Justin EmlayJustin Emlay21 dag geleden
    • $350 per sf is a huge difference.

      Justin EmlayJustin Emlay21 dag geleden
  • I just realized this is why they killed SLI. If you had 2 cards, the mining limiter kicked in :)

    racvets1racvets121 dag geleden
  • You can really tell that Linus is sick of taking sh*t over the verified actual gamer program lmao

    GondamarGondamar21 dag geleden
  • DIY Perks! Yes please..

    ObluOblu21 dag geleden
  • im a vatifire Gamer i even play on linux :-b but who cares if you get one you get one if you dont then you dont. get over it and get on with your life.

    The Casual GamerThe Casual Gamer21 dag geleden
  • I wonder if you can just mine in a VM or container 😉

    Michael BerlingerMichael Berlinger21 dag geleden
  • For the Nvidia drivers with mining vs gaming, couldn’t you dual boot with one OS having the game ready drivers and one with the dev drivers that remove the limited?

    Sean WoofSean Woof21 dag geleden
  • When is scrapwars gon a happen again you twits? 😂....best ever!

    Scott curtisScott curtis21 dag geleden
  • Decent, reasonable Canadians. Oh yeah... hilarious too. This isn't news! Not a very funny joke but what can I say? I'm not Canadian. Great episode, gentlemen.

    Samuel Tetley EstesSamuel Tetley Estes21 dag geleden
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    Deepshika GopinathanDeepshika Gopinathan21 dag geleden
  • To be honest nicehash its probably what gamers would use, I am a gamer primarily, bit i can only play in the afternoon, the rest of the day I kept my pc mining and its cool that we have the ability to do it. AND i wan something that i can just press ply and start mining then just press pause when I start palying. I don't want to go and look for a pool, what coin to mine, the miner software etc.

    ROLO GamingROLO Gaming21 dag geleden
  • The matrix code coming down... you are showing your age and location! "reboot"

    Zapp BranniganZapp Brannigan21 dag geleden
  • Apparently, using a VPN can get your Steam account banned.

    Richard RussellRichard Russell21 dag geleden
  • Nerfing mining performance would have no connection to scalpers. Miners aren't buying the cards to flip for profit.

    Richard RussellRichard Russell21 dag geleden
  • i’m a actual gamer, check my steam account, but real gamers play on shitty pcs😎1050ti and Ryzen 2600 is pretty snazzy if you ask me My boy linus spitting facts

    asoftdolphinasoftdolphin21 dag geleden
  • Yeah, that wasn't going to stop them forever. The mining community by its nature is an encryption cracking community.

    Kenneth MunkKenneth Munk21 dag geleden
  • mmmmm shepherd's pie 😋

    ΥOᴜ DOᴎ,T KᴻoW MEΥOᴜ DOᴎ,T KᴻoW ME21 dag geleden
  • Not sell them to Americans? That's ignorant considering all the Canadian product that moves through the US to the Canada that is subject to all the same things.

    Justin EmlayJustin Emlay21 dag geleden
  • I thought i was getting crazy watching LMG Clips and saying, I saw this days ago!

    christopher Jara Vargaschristopher Jara Vargas21 dag geleden
  • NiceHash is fine. People are full of it. Just make sure to transfer to a private wallet from time to time.

    Justin EmlayJustin Emlay21 dag geleden
  • 52:00 I am a real gamer just a broke one.

    Joao Eduardo Soares e SilvaJoao Eduardo Soares e Silva22 dagen geleden
  • be glad the deal collapsed

    wileycsgwileycsg22 dagen geleden
  • Anyone else kinda hoping that the Verified Actual Gamer program is gonna be heralded under the name "NCIX"? More so cuz pc parts retailing and it makes this entire venture go full circle for Linus.

    FrankciscophilFrankciscophil22 dagen geleden
  • And that's why murricans have no idea about the whole wide world out there.

    zeveroare Rzeveroare R22 dagen geleden
  • "Accidentally" released an un-nerfed mining driver. Yea right.

    Dennis HunsdonDennis Hunsdon22 dagen geleden
  • Wait NiceHash returned the coin? When, because I never got mine?

    MKTechMKTech22 dagen geleden
  • Can someone write here a resume of they said?

    LukeskywoukerLukeskywouker22 dagen geleden
  • I would actually use FloatplaneVPN..

    FullThrottle099FullThrottle09922 dagen geleden
  • Blockchain is fundamentally stupid for electronic transactions at scale.

    ZandarKoadZandarKoad22 dagen geleden
  • I use a whistle (a British rail one inc neck tether)...I never get asked for tickets on trains...

    robbin mcoleyrobbin mcoley22 dagen geleden
  • I dont understand why miners are being demonized. Who cares what people do with the product they bought.

    Ken EmeighKen Emeigh22 dagen geleden
  • central digital money wont work

    Indiana StonesIndiana Stones22 dagen geleden
  • Gotta love import tax, spent probably a total of like £70 or £80 on the LTT stealth hoodie. Its so frustrating to buy stuff in dollars cz you think like "ah cool $60 is like £43 that's not a lot" but then the merciless shipping costs and import fees get added

    Sir HenkSir Henk22 dagen geleden
  • some peoples stupidity makes me hate people even more

    beat my meatbeat my meat22 dagen geleden
  • I've made $250 with nice hash. If you guys don't want that, more money for me.

    Zex MaxwellZex Maxwell22 dagen geleden
  • People Linus is doing his best, give him a break! Any comments I have made were just to point out how no matter how hard we try to do our best somethings are unavoidable like how really only rich gamers right now can get these cards right now even more so due to shipping from Canada to USA unfortunately. But Linus is doing his best to get these cards to gamers! At lease Linus is doing his best. I have been streaming almost every night btw if needed Linus if you need to lower shipping costs your welcome to drive them to US :) and I will ship them from Michigan or Ohio :) I work in Toledo and live in Sandusky so I could meet you in either place. it me up on Twitch if you need help TheRealSarcasmO . Keep up the tech awesomeness oh and don't drop any of the hardware will ya ;) :P

    Bits & BytesBits & Bytes22 dagen geleden
  • My wife and I are American and we both have passports. And I have old ASIC miners I bought off eBay collecting bitdust for me! And that was annoying!

    htmagichtmagic22 dagen geleden
  • I used ltt's discount for a 2 year contract with pia. it was unusable, slow, no netflix...it's only good when ur still downloading torrents. Fucking waste of money when I tried it

    X41N3X41N322 dagen geleden
  • 49:30 - Two words (not those lol) "Australia + Centrelink" research it.................

    Mantisman™Mantisman™22 dagen geleden
  • Thing is though, people are driven by greed and as the price rises... more people get into it

    Alex FletcherAlex Fletcher22 dagen geleden
  • 1:04:00 *Super-Annoying Fun-Time!* If you did not hear this in _true surround-sound,_ you missed a startling and gruesome effect. My dog is traumatized. When Linus turned the annoying _up to eleven,_ she panicked and headed for the exit. It sounded like the "Arena" listening-mode on my AV receiver. *Disclaimer: Some animals **_were harmed_** in the playback of this video.* :-)

    M0rn1n6St4rM0rn1n6St4r22 dagen geleden
  • This is probably self explanatory for most, but to get that 15% off Ridge Wallet, you actually need to enter WAN as a discount code on the checkout step of the shopping cart, the URL ref was not enough.

    FallenShamsielFallenShamsiel22 dagen geleden
  • Now that was a nice way telling Americans they're spoiled :D

    gonacegonace22 dagen geleden
  • Literally fuck the current GPU situation.

    Alpha BetAlpha Bet22 dagen geleden
  • I mean, people are going to complain no matter what, if you hand someone $19, they're going to ask why it wasn't $20, and there's always the people who think screaming and shouting will get them something, not to mention the jerks who do it simply for self-satisfaction. Thanks for trying to do something about this GPU situation despite that!

    BobIV123BobIV12322 dagen geleden
  • I don't think I can support this content any longer if Linus is a brony. That's just a bit too much.

    2nd_place2nd_place22 dagen geleden
  • at this point when it comes to scalpers and miners you should have to buy GFX cards and processors in person with a global registration system to force people to one person per card and processor for 6 months and then another 6 months till a year after release date.

    fro16883fro1688322 dagen geleden
  • Just to shatter your North American view of the world: In Europe you can travel a lot of countries without a passport. An ID Card is most likely sufficient. So a lot of people do not have a passport here.

    PolypPolyp22 dagen geleden
  • Don't remove that hash video!!!! I don't watch it yet

    galgalimeyes91galgalimeyes9122 dagen geleden
  • I don't know if I would be the only one interested in it or if it just isn't the right channel for it but I would love to see the things you guys had to set up in order to work with the tariffs in place. I'm American and am interested in specifically Canada's side to selling something to American consumers and visa versa.

    KyleKyle22 dagen geleden
  • One of the things I appreciate about Linus is that he does not cede creative control to advertisers, and still respects the audience enough to listen when they don't like a particular direction. Very few NLworldrs have the integrity to do either of these things, much less both simultaneously.

    metroidfan220metroidfan22022 dagen geleden
  • ask for proof later that someone still has that gamer only gpu they are selling, will deter flipping the card later

    Pablo VazquezPablo Vazquez22 dagen geleden
  • I dunno I think Linus is a bit out of touch attributing some community members that are ignorant about thing slike tariffs and who get illogically mad about it as a trait of americans, its probably that those users are dumb kids who are gonna act toxic about any old thing that inconveniences them. being the tech channel it is, and being related to gaming means you'll have plenty of little kids whining about dumb stuff they really aren't a part of anyhow, but because theyre behind a keyboard, the age correlation is often hidden

    LukaroastLukaroast22 dagen geleden
  • There's nothing wrong with NiceHash, vocal minority bitching...

    morbitalmorbital22 dagen geleden
  • spoiled or ignorant?

    Jim RussellJim Russell22 dagen geleden
  • 🤣🤣🤣👌

    Joe CaJoe Ca22 dagen geleden
  • I’m personally bummed you guys aren’t going to work with nicehash anymore. I’ve made some money and I’m really grateful for the video you guys made. It’s unfortunate some people just don’t get the message... 🙄

    Brendan PucelBrendan Pucel22 dagen geleden
  • Shit I was putting my mining rig on the ac vent with a fan directly on it 😂 I like my gpu too much to destroy it

    Matt KingMatt King22 dagen geleden
    • By mining rig I mean gaming rig. I was using it to mine lol. I made $6 so far with my rx 5600 xt

      Matt KingMatt King22 dagen geleden
  • Its better they remain stratified anyway smaller and more agile better for everybody.

    Jeremiah CarrJeremiah Carr22 dagen geleden
  • Game: Click randomly at the timeline of the video, if it's not Linus talking you get a point. I got 0.

    Vis MajorVis Major23 dagen geleden
  • I've never liked cryptocurrency. I knew that the whole premise of it decentralizing banking was a gimmick and it was only a matter of time before powerful people started consolidating and centralizing it. They needed the little guy to use pc resources to fill in the gaps they couldn't aford to in it's early stages. And just like with pyramid schemes, Smaller investors (everyday people) pump up the buisness but walk away empty handed and some super successful people at the top get rich. I've seen it happen so many times. And all this get rich pipe dream scams drive up pc cost and down availability. Just so some at the top can scam the rest. Work harder and smarter and things move in the right direction. Cryptocurrency is NOT smarter but another type op pyramid scam.

    Shawn McCownShawn McCown23 dagen geleden
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